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thank you

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welcome to night vision radio

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hi everyone welcome to night vision

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radio we have a special show planned for

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tonight we're going to be exploring the

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arcadian mysteries with court lindell

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we're going to get into such favorites

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as reynolds chateau oak island chug bro

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hall and

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gosh knows where else we'll end up but

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before we do that i wanted to take some

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to recognize and pay tribute to a very

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special person that we lost yesterday

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and a lot of you are very familiar with

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who i'm talking about jim mars uh

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award-winning journalist and author

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and um i was thinking about you know

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back on you know the conversations and

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all the wonderful uh things that i

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learned from jim mars and the great

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books of his that i read and

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i was remembering that

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i actually met him through another

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friend

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uh who is uh on the line with us now and

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has agreed to come on and share

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some of his uh memories about jim mars

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and i'm talking about my old buddy

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uh former research director for ufo

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magazine he's a published author and

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he's also a radio show host a popular

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show of his own we're going to hear

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about that but i'm talking about don

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ecker hey don how are you hey renee i'm

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doing well how about you

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i'm doing okay but i tell you uh it was

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kind of a gut punch today i got a

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a message from a friend uh

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of mine and also someone who's been on

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my show a few different times lisa larue

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of the cherokee tribe of oklahoma

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and lisa and i are sort of research

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buddies and she's also an avid avid gym

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mars fan

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uh got into some conversations about uh

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the freemasons and how they had really

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infiltrated uh certain indian tribes and

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it was some really interesting stuff i

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had a long conversation with jim mars

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about it and we actually all talked

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about collaborating on something and

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then i guess life got in the way and we

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all got off on different things lisa

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went off and got married and

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moved back to oklahoma and all kinds of

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things happened we didn't do it but just

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very strangely she

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wrote to me and she had been studying

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some of these jfk papers that had

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recently been released and she said do

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you think that we could um have jim mars

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on your show

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and i could come on and we could talk

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about you know the jfk assassination

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because of course i guess jim's probably

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most famous book don would you agree is

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is is crossfire

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well he he was yes his

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was was a major work

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another major work of his was alien

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agenda absolutely and jim jim

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i think that's the best-selling

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non-fiction book on ufos of all time

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yeah jim had called me up and and had

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rather extensively on my research into

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lunar phenomena as a matter of fact he

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but you know when when i heard about his

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dying

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yesterday and and it hit me

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it was like a bolt out of the blue yeah

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and i started started thinking

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back about some of the encounters i had

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with with jim mars now i knew jim

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renee as as you will remember because

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you were a managing editor at ufo

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magazine

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i i knew

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jim going all the way back to the early

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very early 1990s when

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we first connected and i had interviewed

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him on my original show

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ufos tonight a number of times

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and then i i started thinking about a

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very funny

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incident that that happened with uh with

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vicky and i uh knew that jim was going

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to be over in vegas and to tell you the

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truth i even forget now

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what in the uh the heck uh we needed to

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interview him for but he he was involved

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with something and

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i had called him up at his home and i

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said uh you know you're going to be over

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there we'll we'll drive over and see you

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he said yeah sure

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after it was all said and done vicky was

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going to wander off somewhere and

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somehow renee it's it's going to be hard

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to believe but we ended up in the bar

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oh no i don't believe that

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yeah yeah it's hard to believe and and

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i'll tell you what we were talking about

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was from texas

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there's always something about texas

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that just fascinated me

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to no end and that was the alamo the

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battle of the alamo all the way back in

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so we started talking about that we sat

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down and we ordered a drink and

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suddenly jim told me he said well you

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know he said i'm in a group of

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re-enactors

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and i'm thinking oh the the texas

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revolution yeah i do who were you jim

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davy crockett

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he said i was in the mexican army

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i said are you kidding he said nope he

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said i i was on mexican artillery man

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we had the cannons

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so he he started spinning this yarn

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about how they would get out there and

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they get the cannon all loaded and

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the officer would yell fuego

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perspire

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so i don't know if it was jim or me one

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of us and and honest to god if i

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remembered i tell you but but one of us

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tequila

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so the girl brought us over each a shot

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at tequila and we're talking and

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i down my shot and i yelled fuego

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and mars shot his down and we got

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another and before you know we had about

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now i don't know what you know about

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tequila

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renee that can sneak up on you

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and suddenly this little girl came

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walking by selling cigars

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and we looked at these things and honest

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they were two feet long

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so we got these cigars they were mexican

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cigars and we're sitting in there and

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well what do you think don should we get

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another shot of tequila why not

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and all i can tell you is

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that night melted into a fog

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but buddy the next morning did i

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and and probably regretted it and

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and i thought from that point forward i

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said mars no more tequila

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that's hilarious

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i tell you he was such a good

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storyteller wasn't he i mean he uh

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you know i hate i i i have to say i

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didn't hold his the fact that he was

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from texas against him even though we

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i didn't hold that against him and i

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tell you i'd love to hear him

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you know talk and tell stories he had

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such a way

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about him he was pretty amazing we had

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this radio station quite a bit now uh mj

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he's also one of the station owners uh

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you had some interaction mj are you

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there yeah i'm i'm here jim i was yeah

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number of his shows he is also uh one of

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our one of the awesome hosts on epic

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voyages for quite a few years there but

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just his humor and in his in his you

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know uplifting talk he was great and the

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thing i remember i'll always remember

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about jim is you know his jfk

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research was impeccable i was always

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glued to the show or the podcast every

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time he was on talking about that

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research but yeah he was a good man very

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very light-hearted and awesome glad we

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were able to work with him as a network

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absolutely one of a kind one of a kind

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uh you probably know more about this

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because i've been asleep at the wheel on

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the jfk assassination thing but lisa

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who has been researching it

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was saying you know she was so upset you

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know about jim's passing because she

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really wanted a chance to you know have

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a conversation with him about some of

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these documents that have been released

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but then i guess there's supposed to be

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a lot more released

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and she said gosh i know jim has

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probably been waiting for these

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documents since 1963 and i'm so sorry

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that you know he wasn't here to see the

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release of all of them do you know what

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document she's talking about don no no

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you know quite honestly i haven't seen

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any of these new documents yet but but

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here here's a thought that may be

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uh he probably is aware of the whole

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shebang now renee

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absolutely and i have to say that

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thought did cross my mind this afternoon

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i thought well he knows it all now

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who's who and who did what to who and

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what have you i'm sure he's got it he's

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got it by now

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absolutely absolutely well he was a a

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great guy and and just a an amazing

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a great writer and a good good talker

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that's what i can say best about jim you

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know and i know that his loved ones and

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his family are going to miss him and i'm

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just wishing them all the comfort

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and peace that they can possibly have

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around this they had a wonderful guy

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there and he was a real treat to a lot

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of us

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oh yeah i i gotta tell you

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i enjoyed every time i had a chance to

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sit down and talk with jim

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he uh he was just the most charming

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and and congenial man

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and you know

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uh

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even when he would for my taste get a

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little out there on some of these things

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and i got to tell you there there were a

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number of things that jim came up with

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that uh i just had a hard time

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uh accepting at face value in other

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words i'd have to see a heck of a lot

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more proof but uh

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but you know when it when it came to

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being a a hard-nosed digger

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getting into the into the stuff

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there was the guy that did it

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yep absolutely absolutely i remember

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reading some of his stuff on you know

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the iraq war and i mean he covered a lot

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of ground absolutely but you know and i

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wanted to mention you know you mentioned

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vicky before and of course we're talking

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about your lovely wife vicky cooper

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ecker who was the

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founder or co-founder and

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editor-in-chief and publisher of ufo

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magazine for many many years

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and i worked there don

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was the research director for the

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magazine and don of course had a radio

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show with actor dwight schultz over a

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number of years called ufos tonight and

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i was i had the privilege of being their

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uh producer and announcer co-producer

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because that jeff was there also

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and uh

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had a ball and i want to tell you don

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you know i was talking about you know

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when i was thinking back about you know

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jim today and what was my first

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connection with jim and i of course

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traced it back to you and then i started

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thinking about it i thought you know i

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meant a lot of

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really

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met ingo swann

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who was a good friend of yours

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i met zechariah sitchin

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and i'm at jim mars and there are more

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but those are just john keel

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well i didn't meet john well i actually

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talked to john keel over the phone and

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we've got a huge john keel fan listening

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right now i see her in the chat room so

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she's going to be happy that we

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mentioned john keel but yes yes had the

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privilege of talking to john keel and

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arranging the shows

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and um

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as he was on ufos tonight

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and now you're doing uh uh

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another radio show which you've been

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doing for a number of years

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well i've been since 2004 i've been

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doing

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uh

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the original the one the original dark

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matters

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other people no names mentioned like art

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bill

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tried to steal my name

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uh back in in 2004 i began it with yes

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dwight schultz which i did

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and uh

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then i went through a couple of other

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networks

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uh i just left a network

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that i did dmr on for seven years i am

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now

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on kg r a radio

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uh which is uh a real up and coming

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network

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uh i i my shows are 5 to 7 pm

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pacific time

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on fridays and

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saturdays friday nights i do my live

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interviews tomorrow night i'm

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interviewing astrologer of actually

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renowned astrologer

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jeff harmon and then saturday is our

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open line show with richard sarah days

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so uh yeah we

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we've been banging right along oh that

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sounds great don well i want to thank

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you for coming on and sharing some

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memories about jim mars

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and uh

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it was nice it was fun it's always fun

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to remember the good times uh when we're

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so sad so

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we want to uh pay all tribute to jim

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mars and uh we thank him for his great

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work and thank you don

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for being with us tonight and you betcha

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and in the immortal words of uh jim mars

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all right

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thank you don

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all right now we're to move right on

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into the arcadian mysteries which was

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which was our regularly scheduled show

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tonight with author researcher court

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lindell court are you with me

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i am here oh thank you for hanging in

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there court appreciate it

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no problem it was it was great to uh

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give tribute to jim yes

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yeah absolutely absolutely couldn't let

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it pass by without uh without a real

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good solid mention so now what you and i

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have been buzzing on skype about for the

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last

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however many years

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but it's been all coming to fruition uh

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you've got some great research in

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connecting up many of these so-called

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arcadian mysteries we're talking about

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mysteries like renly chateau chuck

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borough hall oak island and you know and

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you know i have to say we're also

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connecting into the united states

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uh so it's you know it's not just france

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it's not just europe and it's not just

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uh canada anymore you connected it right

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on down into into california among other

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places but where did you want to kick

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off tonight because i told you it's up

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to you where we where we start off

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well we could start by you know giving a

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broad definition of the arcadian

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mysteries which i believe

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yeah right

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this includes uh sterling castle in

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scotland shugborough hall

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rainless chateau and oak island and if

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not extending to

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uh places other places i've written

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about like williamsburg

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um and the frenchman's tower in palo

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alto california

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and what i found along the way are some

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definite

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genie genealogy that links all of these

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places together kind of via the jacobite

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movement

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of the exiled kings of england and

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scotland

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uh the stewart family we're talking

446
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about james ii

447
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james iii and bonnie prince charlie that

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kind of left a legacy behind in their

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exile

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that in part i think these mysteries are

451
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meant to tell us about

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their history and remind us that they

453
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were there as they were exiled in

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history kind of sweeps

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these people aside sometimes

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and most interestingly later we see it

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linking

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to the exiled french king of france

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andre five

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who i had earlier linked to the

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can we can we go to that because i know

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that you know a lot of people that are

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listening are you know what i call

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rennie's you know and everyone uh

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that is familiar with the reynolds

466
00:19:57,590 --> 00:19:54,240
chateau mystery of course is very

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familiar with the tour magdala in uh

468
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renle chateau a strange uh

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gothic structure that uh

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behringer sonia had built during his

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time there in the late

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19th century or early 20th century i'm

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not sure what the actual date you i'm

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sure you know the date of the towers

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construction was but can you tell us uh

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how this tower

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relates to the tower that you're talking

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about in palo alto california which

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actually predates the tour magdala

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yes well really what we'll get to is

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that it all relates to the the de la

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tour group of families in france

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and their relation to the stewards the

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exile kings of scotland

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and we see this relation

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not only through james ii bonnie prince

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charlie's grandfather

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who through his wife

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maria sobieska i believe was her correct

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name

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her

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sister was intermarried with the de la

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tours

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and this later bonnie prince charlie

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would actually have an affair with his

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first cousin louise de la tour

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that produced a child

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that was never heard from again or noted

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in history

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after its birth uh but it's interesting

501
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that there's this loop you know through

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his grandfather that he had an affair

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actually with his first cousin

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and then later

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he would uh have a liaison with

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clementine walkenshaw of scotland

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and uh have an issue of

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his daughter charlotte who is the exiled

509
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duchess of albany

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and she in turn would have an affair

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with the member of the de la tour

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family and have three children that are

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seldom known in history but later there

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was a gentleman from harvard that wrote

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a book about them and that's extensively

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documented that they existed and did

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attempt to claim some of their family

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right

519
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from england at that time

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so what we see is this this group of

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families in

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intermarried also with

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people like thomas coutts

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who owned a huge banking concern in

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england that loaned a great deal

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of money to people like andre five

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or later his descendants did who

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controlled the same bank but also uh was

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said to have controlled all the money of

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the exiled stewart family did you miss a

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show and he was indeed related to uh

532
00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:33,360
bonnie prince charlie's

533
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paramour clementino walking shaw

534
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so this even relates them together and

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and they were friends with his children

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and everything and they spent a lot of

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time together and this is all documented

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00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:01,830
in palo alto california was in 1875

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and this is a good 15 to 20 years before

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father sonia

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started to expose this mystery of

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rainless chateau

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where a man named peter couts

544
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:15,679
came to mayfield california which would

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become palo alto where stanford

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and this is also the same family as cult

547
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firearms by the way later in the united

548
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states

549
00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:42,720
it's the same family where they both

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used either the cult or the cow's name

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even far back in scottish history it's

552
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just the different because the l

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is kind of silent

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in the galaxy

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so it even sounds similar

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it would be

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quote

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00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:01,200
it's the same name and there's even a

559
00:24:22,830 --> 00:24:19,830
what year was the the frenchman's tower

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00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:22,840
built there in palo alto it was built in

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1875

562
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:26,559
and then what year was the tour magdala

563
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:28,080
built didn't you say it was like 60

564
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:30,000
years later or something it was but no

565
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:36,870
or early 20th century and i'm not really

566
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:38,960
square on that i know i read that before

567
00:24:42,789 --> 00:24:40,320
it's just one of the facts they're

568
00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:42,799
eluding me at the moment but it was a

569
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:45,760
significant amount of time later

570
00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:47,600
so what we see kind of is the same

571
00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:49,840
family group creating a similar thing

572
00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:51,520
involving a tower

573
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:54,000
in california even before

574
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:57,120
and the the trail of links between the

575
00:25:01,590 --> 00:24:59,360
same people that we'll later talk about

576
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:01,600
involved in rainless chateau is

577
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:03,760
undeniable between the french the

578
00:25:08,149 --> 00:25:06,480
frenchman's tower in palo alto

579
00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:08,159
peter couts

580
00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:10,320
to the de la tour family

581
00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:15,039
and other families in england as well

582
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:16,159
hmm

583
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:17,600
now

584
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:18,880
the

585
00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:22,720
correct me if i'm wrong because

586
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:24,880
you filled my head with so many full uh

587
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:27,679
so many facts courted you know you know

588
00:25:31,110 --> 00:25:29,360
i have trouble giving them all straight

589
00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:31,120
but wasn't there something about the

590
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:34,960
architect of the towers

591
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:37,200
was it the same architect or was it just

592
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:39,760
the same family ordering you know having

593
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:41,600
something to do or paying for the towers

594
00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:43,360
what was the actual family connection

595
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:45,120
right right well we'll see the couch

596
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:48,320
bank later financing henry 5

597
00:25:51,909 --> 00:25:49,520
as they did

598
00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:51,919
many other nobility of europe in england

599
00:25:54,070 --> 00:25:53,200
and scotland

600
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:54,080
and

601
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:57,360
a lot of theories present evidence

602
00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:00,000
such as from society perios

603
00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:02,559
that andre five's family

604
00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:05,200
was behind paying for the tour magdala

605
00:26:09,669 --> 00:26:07,279
and villa bethania in

606
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:09,679
at rainless chateau

607
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:11,600
and uh

608
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:12,960
really

609
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:14,880
that we see the same thing the

610
00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:17,039
connections i made at the frenchman's

611
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:18,240
tower which i

612
00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:20,640
believe was in part built to be due

613
00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:23,840
south of mount shasta and we can follow

614
00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:26,320
these same family connections into the

615
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:28,400
legends of mount shasta and all the kind

616
00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:31,120
of mythology and lore we see there

617
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:33,200
and i know this sounds far out and hard

618
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,880
to grasp if

619
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:36,400
we've all been in

620
00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:38,159
studying the rainless chateau mystery

621
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:39,919
but what we're seeing is a series of

622
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:41,679
these towers built

623
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:43,679
kind of in the namesake of the de la

624
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:45,520
tour family

625
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:48,000
which is of the tower literally in

626
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:50,559
french right that that are involved in

627
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:52,240
this and we even see parts of their

628
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:54,480
family on their family arms having the

629
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:57,440
cathar cross or the same cross that is

630
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:00,640
the symbol of the languedoc rose salon

631
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:02,799
and a tower

632
00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:04,880
so we know also

633
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:06,320
that magdala

634
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:07,440
[Music]

635
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:10,320
means tower as well yeah

636
00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:12,480
so all of these links are there in kind

637
00:27:16,620 --> 00:27:16,159
of the the mythology of mary magdalene

638
00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:16,630
and

639
00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:17,760
[Music]

640
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:19,520
the way all of these families are

641
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,000
related to the plantagenet dynasty of

642
00:27:26,390 --> 00:27:24,480
france in england that's one thing in

643
00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:26,400
common with all of these families they

644
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:28,080
have those links

645
00:27:32,390 --> 00:27:30,240
and we see in the case of the the

646
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:32,400
scottish exile kings that they

647
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:35,279
intermarried with french families in

648
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:38,080
their exile and polish families in the

649
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:40,559
case of james ii that had these same

650
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:42,240
connections

651
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:45,039
so that leads to kind of a symbolic

652
00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:47,360
value by de la tour

653
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:49,360
and we even see them intermarrying with

654
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:51,840
the blanche fort family

655
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:54,000
who of course is a well-known

656
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:54,799
name

657
00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:56,720
to those that are familiar with rainless

658
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:57,919
chateau

659
00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:59,600
and really the the

660
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:01,679
missing or destroyed headstone that

661
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:03,760
father sauniere found was one of the

662
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:06,000
things that clued henry lincoln into the

663
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:07,760
pentagonal

664
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:10,320
geometry in the landscape

665
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:12,159
and really the the headstone only

666
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:15,120
included three points of the star

667
00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:16,960
and what we see is that

668
00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:19,360
part of the star that was defined on the

669
00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:20,720
headstone

670
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,960
pointing a line to the king's knot at

671
00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:24,720
sterling castle

672
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:26,880
that matches the octagonal form of the

673
00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:29,039
king's knot there if we view this on the

674
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:32,000
globe and the same arc on the globe

675
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:35,200
passes directly over shugborough hall's

676
00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:38,240
tower of the winds where we also see an

677
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:40,880
additional arcadian theme and that's

678
00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:42,480
something i need to stress we're seeing

679
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:43,760
and of

680
00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:46,640
of course borough hall is the is the

681
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:54,310
former former earls of litchfield were

682
00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:56,480
related

683
00:29:01,750 --> 00:28:59,039
right but what we see at each of these

684
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:01,760
places in sterling castle is a region of

685
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:05,360
scotland that was referred to as arcadia

686
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:07,440
and i was doing research into my own

687
00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:09,760
family southerland genealogy and came

688
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:10,799
across

689
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:13,440
wills and deeds that named the land

690
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:14,880
arcadia

691
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:18,240
in the um mid 13th century

692
00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:20,480
and where was that exactly

693
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:22,799
in the area surrounding sterling castle

694
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:23,919
in scotland

695
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:25,120
oh wow

696
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,360
so then we see the arcadian theme then

697
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:29,520
repeated by the ansons

698
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:31,600
in the shepherds monument

699
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:33,679
at shugborough hall

700
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:35,520
along with the tower of the winds and

701
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:36,320
then

702
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:39,039
we go to renle chateau in the same

703
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:41,679
imagery is suggested by the the

704
00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:44,000
headstone that was destroyed

705
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:45,039
and

706
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:46,880
the pentagonal

707
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:50,159
landscape geometry that henry lincoln

708
00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:51,600
found there

709
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:53,840
and all along the whole way at each

710
00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:55,440
place are descendants of the

711
00:29:59,830 --> 00:29:58,000
plantagenets and stewards at each

712
00:30:03,190 --> 00:29:59,840
location

713
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:03,200
where these arcadian themes are stressed

714
00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:05,279
so that to me that has to be more than a

715
00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:07,679
coincidence we're being told this

716
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:10,159
at all three of those places

717
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:13,360
in in architecture in history

718
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:18,789
and

719
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:20,000
i'll go ahead

720
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:21,279
no it's okay

721
00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:23,200
uh all of them they're just all related

722
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:25,279
via the arcadian theme and if you look

723
00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:27,520
into it you can see the whole

724
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:30,320
uh jacobite kind of cause mixed with

725
00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:33,279
when the exiled kings in france happened

726
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:36,080
that they're family with even henri

727
00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:37,919
five's wife

728
00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:40,080
was one of the people that's in line for

729
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:42,159
the claim of the scottish crown because

730
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:44,159
she descended from charles the first

731
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:47,279
daughter henrietta of england

732
00:30:52,630 --> 00:30:49,360
so henry five even

733
00:30:55,029 --> 00:30:52,640
his wife was a steward

734
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:55,039
so it's this interrelationship that

735
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:57,440
scotland and france has always had in

736
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:58,960
history that

737
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:00,880
uh england didn't

738
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:03,120
to a large extent

739
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:05,840
the the lots of inner marriage like mary

740
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:07,360
queen of scots

741
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:09,600
her mother marie of geese

742
00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:12,240
and other intermarriages between the the

743
00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:14,960
scottish and english kings and in france

744
00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:16,240
the french

745
00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:18,399
so this created a lot of family ties

746
00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:19,919
through the years

747
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:21,760
that especially

748
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:24,559
when james ii was exiled that these

749
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:26,559
family ties became important to the

750
00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:29,200
survival of the exiled court

751
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:31,760
of james ii and subsequently bonnie

752
00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:33,760
prince charlie as well

753
00:31:39,509 --> 00:31:37,120
so that what they were doing in part

754
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:39,519
is kind of weaving a mythology that

755
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:41,600
reminds you that they were there and of

756
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:42,960
what they did

757
00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:44,960
and who their families were

758
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:47,679
and the kind of things they valued like

759
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:51,120
the concept of mary magdalene that fits

760
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:52,720
if you have a lowe's advantage card you

761
00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:54,320
can get an extra five percent off every

762
00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:56,159
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763
00:31:59,909 --> 00:31:57,919
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764
00:32:01,750 --> 00:31:59,919
of paint updating appliances replacing

765
00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:01,760
the flooring and even save an extra five

766
00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:03,360
percent on little things like cleaning

767
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:04,880
supplies laundry detergent and air

768
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,279
filters the big to do's to the everyday

769
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:09,360
essentials you get an extra five percent

770
00:32:12,549 --> 00:32:10,880
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771
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:12,559
lowe's advantage card if you don't have

772
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:14,720
one apply today all projects have a

773
00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:16,640
starting point start with lows subject

774
00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:17,919
to credit approval and can't be combined

775
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:19,279
with any other credit offers exclusions

776
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:21,120
apply c store for details u.s only then

777
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:23,440
with the plantagenet value and the kind

778
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:25,600
of mythology we see linking them to the

779
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:28,799
blood of jesus christ

780
00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:30,960
when i dove into that that they believe

781
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:33,039
they're related to saint james as well

782
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:34,559
santiago

783
00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:36,880
well that's what i was going to

784
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:39,919
ask you about just a moment ago because

785
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:41,519
i know that

786
00:32:48,389 --> 00:32:45,440
this is about a a a lot of this has to

787
00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:48,399
do with these fallen kings and these

788
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:51,120
deposed uh royals

789
00:32:57,029 --> 00:32:54,000
and wanting to sort of

790
00:32:59,350 --> 00:32:57,039
leave behind you know signs and you know

791
00:33:02,070 --> 00:32:59,360
maybe markings and

792
00:33:04,470 --> 00:33:02,080
and things like that but also uh you had

793
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:04,480
mentioned to me that it was also

794
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:06,240
reflective a lot of these things are

795
00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:09,200
reflective of some of their own beliefs

796
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:11,440
which might might have or would have

797
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:13,440
been considered heretical

798
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:15,120
and is

799
00:33:21,029 --> 00:33:18,640
uh certainly their uh value of the

800
00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:21,039
goddess or particularly of mary

801
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:23,360
magdalene and it's interesting because

802
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:26,720
like you said tour magdala is actually

803
00:33:33,509 --> 00:33:30,240
tour tour and i know that in a lot of

804
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:33,519
and i believe it's masonic uh material i

805
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:36,640
know in certain material i've read where

806
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:39,440
they've referred to mary magdalene as

807
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:41,519
the the tower

808
00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:43,600
sure when they talk about the tower

809
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:46,399
they're talking about mary magdalene so

810
00:33:51,909 --> 00:33:49,279
is the della tour family

811
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:51,919
building towers because their name is is

812
00:33:55,830 --> 00:33:52,799
tower

813
00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:55,840
and and it's sort of a a sign okay this

814
00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:56,720
is who

815
00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:59,279
this is our place because it's a tower

816
00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:01,279
or is their name

817
00:34:04,549 --> 00:34:02,640
because

818
00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:04,559
somehow derived from their reverence for

819
00:34:09,909 --> 00:34:07,519
mary magdalene their name de la tour

820
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:09,919
does that have something to do and how

821
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:12,960
did that name evolve do you know

822
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:15,520
um no they're originally from the

823
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:17,760
lorraine province which is part of you

824
00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:20,000
know the border areas between belgium

825
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:21,919
and france and germany

826
00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:24,960
now and they are descendant of uh the

827
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:27,440
the dukes of bouillon including gob troy

828
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:29,760
de boeun the first grand master of the

829
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:31,280
knights templar

830
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:34,560
and first king of jerusalem

831
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:35,599
the

832
00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:42,000
descendant de la tours that took this

833
00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:43,440
title

834
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:46,079
the dukes of bouillon also later they

835
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:47,599
held that title

836
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:50,560
uh were named godfrey

837
00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:52,480
on yeah absolutely

838
00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:54,000
so they're at least

839
00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:55,760
paying homage

840
00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:57,839
to god freud to bully in and this brings

841
00:35:03,990 --> 00:35:00,160
us our knights templar connection to

842
00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:04,000
everything as well in that realm so even

843
00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:06,079
uh really what i found were that the the

844
00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:08,480
lords of of the rainless chateau and

845
00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:09,920
rain laban

846
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:12,000
area i found a book

847
00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:14,880
uh called voyage a renle ban

848
00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:18,400
uh written in 1832 by laburos

849
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:21,280
rook fort i please excuse me if i didn't

850
00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:23,920
pronounce that correctly but his mother

851
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:25,839
was a de la tour

852
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:28,240
and in the book it tells about how at

853
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,960
one point during the 1600s or 17th

854
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:32,400
century that

855
00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:35,359
of one of the lords of that region was

856
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:39,040
uh magdalene de la tour

857
00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:41,040
magdalene that's right yeah you sent me

858
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:43,440
that so even the name

859
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:45,760
is involved in their values of their

860
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:47,920
family and everything and of course

861
00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:51,359
they're related to the andrews who

862
00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:53,359
the whole story of charles ii

863
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:55,280
discovering the remains of mary

864
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,480
magdalene at saint maximin

865
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:00,480
um

866
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:03,440
in southern france near uh marseille

867
00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:04,480
also

868
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:07,520
fits into the story as well and so even

869
00:36:11,829 --> 00:36:10,079
the the church itself

870
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:11,839
who would think the alternate views of

871
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:14,960
mary magdalene were heretical also had a

872
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:16,400
value of her

873
00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:19,520
in their on their own terms as well

874
00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:21,839
so yes we do you know see part of the

875
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:23,040
mystery

876
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:25,119
here especially at rain later in

877
00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:27,520
rainless chateau inferring

878
00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:29,599
you know that jesus and mary had

879
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:31,119
children and this is part of the

880
00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:34,880
plantagenet dynasty and we we even see

881
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:36,560
um

882
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:38,880
his name's escaping me now the the man

883
00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:40,400
at rainless chateau who brought the

884
00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:42,800
whole thing up who was a plantard pierre

885
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:45,200
plantard pierre plantar

886
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:47,599
pierre plantar de saint claire

887
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:50,079
right so he was he was knowledgeable of

888
00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:51,760
this i believe

889
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:53,680
i mean he at least had figured out the

890
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:56,160
family connections and everything that

891
00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:58,079
he could try to claim that because of

892
00:37:02,069 --> 00:37:00,079
what his name was

893
00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:02,079
well i tell you you know

894
00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:04,480
as you as you know uh

895
00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:06,560
you know known henry lincoln you know

896
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:08,240
one of the co-authors of holy blood holy

897
00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:10,640
grail and you mentioned him earlier i've

898
00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:13,040
known him for many many years and spent

899
00:37:16,550 --> 00:37:14,320
many hours

900
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:16,560
in conversations with him

901
00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:19,359
and i know that there's been a lot of

902
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:22,560
people you know calling pierre plantar a

903
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:23,920
total

904
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:29,280
and uh but henry lincoln knew pierre

905
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:32,160
plantar personally and ended up knowing

906
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:34,480
him for a number of years

907
00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:36,400
and i tell you

908
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:37,359
he

909
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:42,640
doesn't get sentimental about much

910
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:46,000
but he always gets a very wistful

911
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:48,000
uh look about him when he's talking

912
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:51,119
about pierre plantar and i know that he

913
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:52,960
to this day

914
00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:55,359
truly believes that there was something

915
00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:57,359
to pierre plantar

916
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:58,400
and uh

917
00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:00,400
you know interestingly

918
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:03,760
pierre plantar uh he henry went to

919
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,280
interview him

920
00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:07,680
uh for television and then he decided he

921
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:09,520
didn't want to do it so he was going to

922
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:12,320
uh interview jean-luc show me

923
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:13,839
instead

924
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:16,400
and so i guess jean-luc was getting his

925
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:18,640
ponytail combed and getting all ready to

926
00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:20,560
go on the air

927
00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:23,119
and at the last minute pierre plantar

928
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,359
approached henry and he says

929
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:28,079
i'll i'll do it you know on one

930
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,000
condition and henry said what's that and

931
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:33,119
he said that that he can be in the

932
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:35,440
interview with me and he pointed down to

933
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:37,760
his i think then eight-year-old son

934
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:39,200
thomas

935
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:41,920
and uh henry said well of of course but

936
00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:43,200
but why

937
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:45,359
and he said because he's the important

938
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:46,560
one

939
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:48,640
and

940
00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:51,760
it always made me wonder you know about

941
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:53,599
what he meant by that

942
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:57,440
and uh did that indicate you know that

943
00:39:02,150 --> 00:38:59,280
there really truly is some sort of a

944
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:02,160
family line thing uh to all this mystery

945
00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:04,480
which you know of course ties into

946
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:06,560
uh to what you're saying

947
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:08,880
but i know i know that henry believed in

948
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:11,680
the veracity of pierre plantart and

949
00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:15,280
henry was not it's not an easy guy

950
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:18,160
you know he doesn't believe too much he

951
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:20,720
doesn't believe anything he can't verify

952
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:22,880
for himself i know that

953
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:25,200
right well flantard could have known the

954
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:26,160
truth

955
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:29,280
regardless of whatever his motives were

956
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:30,960
and coming forward

957
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:32,320
i mean

958
00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:34,800
he he could have done the genealogy in

959
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:37,119
the research if he had put the time in

960
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:38,960
to find out these kind of things that

961
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:41,440
i'm exposing here as well

962
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:43,520
and then he may have seen that he or

963
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:46,079
thought or believed he had a family

964
00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:47,680
connection where he could put these

965
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:49,520
ideas forward

966
00:39:53,510 --> 00:39:52,000
and regardless of of whatever else

967
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:53,520
happened and i'm sure

968
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:55,280
you know if he did that there would be a

969
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,280
lot of people who who would want to

970
00:40:01,829 --> 00:39:59,280
dispute what he was saying or even make

971
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:01,839
him look bad for saying it

972
00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:03,920
and it's

973
00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:05,920
you know you were speaking of henry and

974
00:40:12,310 --> 00:40:10,230
sometimes he says that all of this may

975
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:12,320
lead to america

976
00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:14,480
yes he's the united states that i think

977
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:15,920
that's true

978
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:17,440
and uh

979
00:40:22,310 --> 00:40:19,760
part of the what i found was even uh

980
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:22,320
intermarried with the de la tours

981
00:40:28,950 --> 00:40:25,680
at an earlier time and a later time was

982
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:28,960
the marquis de lafayette's family

983
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:30,960
the famous hero of the american

984
00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:33,760
revolution who was also a member of an

985
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:35,839
organization called the society of the

986
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:38,240
cincinnati that was composed of

987
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:40,560
revolutionary war officers and one of

988
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:43,440
their lineal male descendants

989
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:45,119
and this group

990
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:47,359
had dedicated itself to helping the

991
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:50,400
formation of republics around the world

992
00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:52,960
and we we may see some of their

993
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:55,119
influence in the french revolution but

994
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:56,640
what we have

995
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:59,200
is uh the marquis de lafayette's

996
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:00,240
daughter

997
00:41:05,829 --> 00:41:03,119
marrying into the de la tour the alvern

998
00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:05,839
family the exact family group i'm

999
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:07,760
speaking of that's related to bonnie

1000
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:09,440
prince charlie

1001
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:11,680
the exiled king of scotland england and

1002
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:13,680
ireland

1003
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:17,520
and also an earlier ancestor of his also

1004
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:20,640
marrying into the same family group uh

1005
00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:23,280
in the generation just before him

1006
00:41:30,069 --> 00:41:26,960
so he he was also from the same region

1007
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:30,079
the the avern region of france that this

1008
00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:31,760
family is from that's

1009
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:34,319
just somewhat north of uh

1010
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:37,200
the language salon region today

1011
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:38,240
um

1012
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:40,720
now that de la tour family before we get

1013
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:42,240
away from them i don't know if we are

1014
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:43,920
getting away from them but

1015
00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:45,599
there's no escape there's no

1016
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:47,520
no escaping the delta

1017
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:49,920
but you know you mentioned you know

1018
00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:51,680
obviously you know we talked about the

1019
00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:53,599
frenchman's tower in the in the tour

1020
00:41:57,910 --> 00:41:57,040
magdala and uh leslie in the chat room

1021
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:57,920
uh

1022
00:42:02,150 --> 00:41:59,839
mentioned something that i was thinking

1023
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:02,160
about too and she mentioned the tower at

1024
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:03,280
girona

1025
00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:06,800
is have you linked that in in any way

1026
00:42:11,109 --> 00:42:08,800
oh tell us

1027
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:11,119
that's definitely part of the same kind

1028
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:17,109
values during the age of father saunder

1029
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:19,520
if you if you look into girona there's a

1030
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:22,000
great uh documentary on vimeo called

1031
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:24,880
girona city of secrets

1032
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:27,760
that involves patrice chaplin telling

1033
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:31,680
her story of girona and how father sonia

1034
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:33,680
used to go there to meet with a woman

1035
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:36,880
and there was a toray magdala there

1036
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:39,119
and that she had witnessed jean cocteau

1037
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:40,160
and others

1038
00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:42,079
um doing rituals

1039
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:44,480
in the torrey magdala there

1040
00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:47,520
and uh it that kind of links to the late

1041
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:50,640
19th century and early 20th century

1042
00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:53,200
occult values of this and really the you

1043
00:42:57,750 --> 00:42:55,520
know we get to every place

1044
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:57,760
where the arcadian mysteries as i call

1045
00:43:03,589 --> 00:42:59,839
them occur there's also usually a

1046
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:05,829
you mentioned sean cocteau he was the

1047
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:07,760
artist and painter

1048
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:09,760
who was also

1049
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,520
purported to be

1050
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:13,440
one of the grand masters of the priory

1051
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:16,079
of zion exactly so there's all these

1052
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:18,720
links to that mythology as well

1053
00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:21,280
in what was going on in girona and

1054
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:23,200
jerome is a really interesting place

1055
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:24,720
that even has

1056
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:27,760
a history with charlemagne of

1057
00:43:31,589 --> 00:43:30,480
legends that he came there and gifted a

1058
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:31,599
chalice

1059
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:34,720
to the church there uh in girona

1060
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:36,160
and

1061
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:38,720
all of that really is very similar to

1062
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:40,800
what we see at ray la chateau and even

1063
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:42,640
patrice chaplin and some of the other

1064
00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:45,680
people that have looked at that

1065
00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:47,599
say their direct connections between

1066
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:49,839
there and rainless chateau

1067
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:52,079
and some of the geographic connections i

1068
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:54,880
found too in the octagonal scheme

1069
00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:57,119
of the rainless chateau chapel points to

1070
00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:59,280
the church there in girona and things

1071
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:01,359
like that so those connections could be

1072
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:02,640
real as well

1073
00:44:06,309 --> 00:44:04,640
but girona may actually

1074
00:44:08,710 --> 00:44:06,319
be kind of a

1075
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:08,720
during the same era in which we see the

1076
00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:10,880
tour magdala being built in rainless

1077
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:13,760
chateau and the frenchman's tower where

1078
00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:15,760
these things are being built to ensure

1079
00:44:22,390 --> 00:44:18,960
the legacy of andre five whose wife is a

1080
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:22,400
steward as well as i discussed

1081
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:25,920
so so there there's also during this era

1082
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:26,880
links

1083
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:28,880
uh especially in the story of the

1084
00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:30,800
frenchman's tower and all the rest of

1085
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:32,480
this with the caltz family who

1086
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:33,760
intermarried

1087
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:36,720
with the stewart family lord dudley cow

1088
00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:37,920
stewart

1089
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:40,480
who actually married the daughter of

1090
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:43,599
lucian de bonaparte

1091
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:45,760
and lucian bonaparte was somewhat

1092
00:44:50,950 --> 00:44:47,839
opposed to napoleon

1093
00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:50,960
so this is kind of the french opposition

1094
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:54,640
uh to the napoleonic regime that that

1095
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:56,880
hearkens us back to the whole concept of

1096
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:00,000
arcadia being a utopia but in their

1097
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:02,880
minds this is also the ancient regime of

1098
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,760
france in which the kings ruled

1099
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:07,920
and they viewed that kind of feudal

1100
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:10,319
system as a utopia or being able to

1101
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:12,400
produce that kind of lifestyle of

1102
00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:14,079
arcadia

1103
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:15,599
so there are those connections to

1104
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:17,440
everything as well

1105
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:19,760
and uh all along the way

1106
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:21,839
the stewards and de la tours are

1107
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:24,400
involved in and really at first

1108
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:26,800
a lot of the impetus may have come from

1109
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:28,640
bonnie prince charlie

1110
00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,400
at rainless chateau and then his

1111
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:32,720
relation to henry v

1112
00:45:38,069 --> 00:45:35,200
that they chose to take up

1113
00:45:41,589 --> 00:45:38,079
the theme of arcadia too and of course

1114
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:41,599
since the mid-1600s we have the academy

1115
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:42,560
daily

1116
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:45,359
day arcadia of the vatican

1117
00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:47,760
which was a literary and artist group of

1118
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:48,800
people

1119
00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:50,960
kind of dedicated like the society of

1120
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:53,200
the cincinnati in the united states as

1121
00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:55,119
well as to presenting their point of

1122
00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:56,079
view

1123
00:46:02,550 --> 00:45:59,359
in art and literature as well

1124
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:02,560
so this is kind of a silent war going on

1125
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:04,720
in the media of the day where they use

1126
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:07,280
artists artist guilds and everything and

1127
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:09,680
you even see those overtones in the

1128
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:12,480
concept of the priory of zion which

1129
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:14,960
reminds me a lot of the academy of

1130
00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:16,880
arcadia as well

1131
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,440
and we know nicola poussin

1132
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:21,839
was a member of the academy of arcadia

1133
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:24,640
and he painted the shepherds of arcadia

1134
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:25,839
that became

1135
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:27,440
kind of one of the clues that we're

1136
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:29,680
presented with in the rainless chateau

1137
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:30,720
mystery

1138
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:34,079
and was it nicholas pusan also

1139
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:35,920
listed as

1140
00:47:02,630 --> 00:46:37,040
a

1141
00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:02,640
everything

1142
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:04,880
helped to control the media at this time

1143
00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:07,200
and present the views of the rulers and

1144
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:09,040
everything and make sure these kinds of

1145
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:10,960
things were in the public consciousness

1146
00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:12,880
that well as well

1147
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:15,119
so so everybody had their point of view

1148
00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:17,359
and if you could get a group of artists

1149
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:19,200
and this includes the troubadours the

1150
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,400
whole concept of actors and everything

1151
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,720
that presents these kind of ideas to the

1152
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:26,319
public

1153
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:28,960
so so that's part of the whole thing as

1154
00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:31,440
as it moves along we really see

1155
00:47:36,550 --> 00:47:33,920
a writer's guild in england

1156
00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:36,560
during uh the the era of sir francis

1157
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:39,920
bacon known as the wilton riders circle

1158
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:41,680
from which the

1159
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:45,200
work entitled arcadia comes from

1160
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:47,359
that really i feel goes a long way

1161
00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:48,240
towards

1162
00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:51,359
solving the oak island mystery

1163
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:53,359
just for the record uh

1164
00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:56,079
nicholas pusan was not listed as one of

1165
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:58,400
the grand masters of the priory of sound

1166
00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:01,440
of course uh leonardo da vinci was and

1167
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:03,119
then of course there was a nicholas it

1168
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:05,599
was nicholas flamel the alchemist and

1169
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:06,560
then

1170
00:48:10,550 --> 00:48:08,720
he was the one just prior to renee

1171
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:10,560
donchu which you know we were just

1172
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:13,040
talking about the downshift family

1173
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:14,800
so

1174
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:16,960
wow they're all in there and of course

1175
00:48:23,349 --> 00:48:20,480
jean cocteau was the purported last

1176
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:23,359
grand master before pierre plantart and

1177
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:26,800
then we don't know after that

1178
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:29,599
if there was one

1179
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:31,920
that's the whole scheme of these kind of

1180
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:33,839
groups of people going all the way back

1181
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:35,200
to dante

1182
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:37,119
you know in which we see kind of a

1183
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:40,240
liberal form of literature forming

1184
00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:42,800
that that that inspired people like sir

1185
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:44,480
francis bacon

1186
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:46,800
uh william shakespeare and even edgar

1187
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:50,480
allan poe and henry wadsworth longfellow

1188
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:52,640
who were two people that i feel

1189
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:54,960
were exposed to all of these mysteries

1190
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:56,800
due to their association with the

1191
00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:59,119
society of the cincinnati

1192
00:49:04,390 --> 00:49:01,200
of which thomas jefferson and the

1193
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:04,400
marquis de lafayette were members

1194
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:08,000
so all of this does link to an american

1195
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:10,640
understanding of that because really in

1196
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:12,960
large part the jacobite movement of

1197
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:14,880
bonnie prince charlie

1198
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:16,880
helped to create the united states of

1199
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,440
america in a large way even though they

1200
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:21,760
have an association with the catholic

1201
00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:22,960
church

1202
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:25,040
and this this also leads us to our

1203
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:27,040
alliance with the french

1204
00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:29,520
uh through the israel family relations

1205
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:31,680
to even people like the marquis de

1206
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:33,680
lafayette

1207
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:35,599
to promote these kind of values through

1208
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:37,920
the society of the cincinnati

1209
00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:40,640
who who kind of developed these writers

1210
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:42,559
to present their point of view and i

1211
00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:44,880
think in the process

1212
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:47,040
to hide some hints

1213
00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:50,480
that all of this is true in their works

1214
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:53,359
and we see that in nicola busan

1215
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:56,240
and even george's de la tour later who

1216
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:58,000
the paintings i've been posting on the

1217
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:00,960
chat board there of magdalene pentinit

1218
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:03,280
shows his knowledge and value of mary

1219
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:07,599
magdalene as his family had this value

1220
00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:09,839
in my opinion

1221
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:10,960
wow

1222
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:13,119
well now

1223
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:16,000
you know uh we were talking about

1224
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:17,680
we mentioned henry and you mentioned the

1225
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:19,920
fact that he had brought up america what

1226
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,319
he said to me exactly was

1227
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:24,880
if you really want to tell this story

1228
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:29,119
right you have to go to america

1229
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:31,680
so that was his exact

1230
00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:32,880
words or

1231
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:35,440
you know as close as i can remember

1232
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:36,319
so

1233
00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:39,119
i know that he had uh

1234
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:42,160
some interest in the south in louisiana

1235
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:44,480
and the cajuns who of course

1236
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:46,400
you know that's the bastardized version

1237
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:50,000
of acadians who came down from

1238
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:52,079
i guess canada

1239
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:54,800
right came across from france uh and

1240
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:56,880
then down um

1241
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:58,800
into louisiana from canada is that

1242
00:51:01,829 --> 00:51:00,000
correct

1243
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:01,839
right they were exiled there when the

1244
00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:03,920
english took over

1245
00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:06,960
and uh the history of acadia or nova

1246
00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:09,680
scotia you know has the french

1247
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:12,559
controlling it then the scottish colony

1248
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:14,960
and then the english taking it back

1249
00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:17,119
and at various times people being made

1250
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:18,640
to leave but

1251
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:20,559
the big time when that happened was in

1252
00:51:24,549 --> 00:51:23,760
1710 when british general lawrence

1253
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:24,559
uh

1254
00:51:29,109 --> 00:51:26,720
basically took over nova scotia and at

1255
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:29,119
first a lot of them were expelled many

1256
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:31,040
went back to france and many went to

1257
00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:33,440
louisiana which was still part of new

1258
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:35,680
france at the time okay now you're

1259
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:38,079
mentioning you're mentioning lawrence

1260
00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:40,960
now i know that it was a lawrence who

1261
00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:45,359
owned the property uh on which the uh

1262
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:47,520
so-called poo santoom but the but the

1263
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:52,319
real name for it was the pontile tomb um

1264
00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:54,240
a man named lawrence from the united

1265
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:56,400
states owned that property

1266
00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:58,400
and is that the same lawrence family

1267
00:52:01,589 --> 00:51:59,680
we're talking about

1268
00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:01,599
i believe it is i've come really close

1269
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:03,920
to connecting that via genealogy but

1270
00:52:07,589 --> 00:52:05,680
haven't been able to

1271
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:07,599
i think it's very possible and it's

1272
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:11,670
uh

1273
00:52:15,990 --> 00:52:13,760
george washington's brother lawrence

1274
00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:16,000
took his name from the lawrence family

1275
00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:19,599
due to their relationship

1276
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:21,599
and really what we'll get to here soon

1277
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:24,000
is how the the oak island story even

1278
00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:28,160
links to the formation of washington dc

1279
00:52:31,750 --> 00:52:30,000
via these family groups that i'm

1280
00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:31,760
speaking of that kind of

1281
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:34,000
were scottish and had great allegiance

1282
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:35,760
to the french as well through their

1283
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:36,960
marriages

1284
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:38,720
and political

1285
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:41,280
allegiances

1286
00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:43,599
and this includes the de la tour family

1287
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:45,440
in a very big way

1288
00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:47,599
but really to tell that whole story

1289
00:52:51,589 --> 00:52:49,040
correctly

1290
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:51,599
uh we'd have to go back to elizabethan

1291
00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:52,880
times to

1292
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:55,680
a man named philip sydney

1293
00:52:58,630 --> 00:52:56,800
ah

1294
00:53:01,750 --> 00:52:58,640
right

1295
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:01,760
who was the the brother of mary uh

1296
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:04,800
sydney herbert the countess of pembroke

1297
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:07,440
who coincidentally her two sons

1298
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:09,680
married the two daughters of the 17th

1299
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:12,480
earl of oxford de vere

1300
00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:14,720
and the first folio of shakespeare was

1301
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:16,960
dedicated to these two men because of

1302
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:20,000
their patronage of the arts

1303
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:23,280
so this is the nephews of philip sydney

1304
00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:25,520
and philip sydney produced a literary

1305
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:27,440
work for his sister

1306
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:30,000
entitled mary pembroke's

1307
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:33,200
arcadia arcadia

1308
00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:35,599
yes and this is the book

1309
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:37,520
that i've been speaking of recently

1310
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:38,640
online

1311
00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:40,960
that includes what i believe to be the

1312
00:53:45,430 --> 00:53:44,079
original oak island treasure story

1313
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:45,440
even though this

1314
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:48,640
book was published in 1580

1315
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:51,680
over 200 years prior to the modern

1316
00:53:55,910 --> 00:53:53,680
legend of oak island that

1317
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:55,920
tells us three young men saw strange

1318
00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:58,160
lights on the island and rode out one

1319
00:54:00,870 --> 00:53:59,040
night

1320
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:00,880
and found the depression in the ground

1321
00:54:04,390 --> 00:54:03,599
with the ship's tackle above

1322
00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:04,400
and

1323
00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:06,559
excavated their way through nine layers

1324
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:09,119
of logs to find a strange stone that had

1325
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:11,920
a encoded message on it

1326
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:13,839
and after they had removed the stone

1327
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:15,760
they came back the next day to work and

1328
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:18,160
the pit had flooded

1329
00:54:22,829 --> 00:54:20,640
so the very similar

1330
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:22,839
story is present in

1331
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:25,040
arcadia that has

1332
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:28,000
a man digging through layers of logs and

1333
00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:29,200
stones

1334
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:31,920
to get to a strange stone but when he

1335
00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:33,119
removes it

1336
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:35,200
the whole thing had been revealed as a

1337
00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:37,760
bad joke that somebody had sent him on a

1338
00:54:41,349 --> 00:54:39,520
fool's errand

1339
00:54:43,910 --> 00:54:41,359
and um

1340
00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:43,920
it fits in kind of with the whole theme

1341
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:47,200
of arcadia also involving pirates and

1342
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:49,760
treasure chests being mentioned in the

1343
00:54:54,069 --> 00:54:51,680
beginning of the book

1344
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:54,079
and then as the story progresses which

1345
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:56,160
is a really funny story involving

1346
00:55:01,750 --> 00:54:58,720
knights and drag

1347
00:55:04,069 --> 00:55:01,760
it's a shakespearean era comedy sort of

1348
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:04,079
in many ways but there's a lot of things

1349
00:55:07,750 --> 00:55:05,440
hidden in there

1350
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:07,760
and it's really interesting as i studied

1351
00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:09,839
arcadia

1352
00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:11,680
i found that a man named william

1353
00:55:16,790 --> 00:55:14,720
alexander the first earl of sterling

1354
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:16,800
had amended this work

1355
00:55:22,549 --> 00:55:20,480
in about 1613 to 1620.

1356
00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:22,559
and william alexander of sterling

1357
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:24,880
coincidentally was the first baron of

1358
00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:26,880
nova scotia

1359
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:29,119
which at that time was taken from the

1360
00:55:35,190 --> 00:55:31,839
french and their name of it is acadia

1361
00:55:36,150 --> 00:55:35,200
which of course means arcadia

1362
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:36,160
yeah

1363
00:55:41,510 --> 00:55:39,040
so here we have the first baron of nova

1364
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:41,520
scotia contributing and editing a work

1365
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:43,599
entitled arcadia

1366
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:47,280
that also includes a story very similar

1367
00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:50,170
to the oak island treasure story

1368
00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:51,280
[Music]

1369
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:54,720
and as i even researched further

1370
00:56:01,750 --> 00:55:58,720
the first french governor of nova scotia

1371
00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:01,760
was a man named charles de la tour

1372
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:03,440
oh boy

1373
00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:05,680
and he's directly related to the same

1374
00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:07,599
family groups i've been speaking of

1375
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:10,000
before there's plenty of documented

1376
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:12,960
evidence that shows his direct relation

1377
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:15,119
to the same family group that bonnie

1378
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:17,040
prince charlie and his father were

1379
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:20,480
associated with of the de la tour family

1380
00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:22,480
but of course this is much earlier but

1381
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:25,520
it's amazing because even

1382
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:29,200
charles de la tour's father claude

1383
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:31,839
was married to a woman named maria de

1384
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:33,200
salazar

1385
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:36,000
who was related to william alexander the

1386
00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:39,440
first early earl of sterling

1387
00:56:43,910 --> 00:56:41,440
both claude de la tour

1388
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:43,920
and charles de la tour the first french

1389
00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:45,520
governor

1390
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:48,319
of acadia were made barons of nova

1391
00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:54,549
so no matter who controlled nova scotia

1392
00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:57,040
the scottish interest had some power

1393
00:57:00,870 --> 00:56:59,520
there via family

1394
00:57:04,069 --> 00:57:00,880
early on

1395
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:04,079
claude de la tour was captured by the

1396
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:05,599
english

1397
00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:07,920
and was given a baron etsy of nova

1398
00:57:13,510 --> 00:57:11,359
scotia and tried to convince his son

1399
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:13,520
charles to just come over to the

1400
00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:16,559
scottish colony side and and

1401
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:19,040
disowned the french but he refused to do

1402
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:20,880
this and they actually had an armed

1403
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:24,079
conflict between father and son

1404
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:26,640
so as time went on through a long series

1405
00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:27,839
of events

1406
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:30,319
uh charles de la tour was ejected from

1407
00:57:35,470 --> 00:57:33,680
acadia by a rival faction of colonists

1408
00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:35,480
and in in

1409
00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:38,799
1654 the english re-invaded

1410
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:41,119
acadia and he was invited back and

1411
00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:44,000
accepted his title of baron of nova

1412
00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:46,559
scotia and worked with the english and

1413
00:57:50,549 --> 00:57:48,400
scottish interests there

1414
00:57:53,589 --> 00:57:50,559
so you even see these men switching

1415
00:57:55,829 --> 00:57:53,599
sides and allegiances with whoever ruled

1416
00:57:58,230 --> 00:57:55,839
nova scotia

1417
00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:58,240
and this is the de la tour family it's

1418
00:58:03,190 --> 00:57:59,920
strange though it's strange you're

1419
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:03,200
married with the body family

1420
00:58:08,789 --> 00:58:05,440
oh my gosh you know what great cichlid

1421
00:58:10,549 --> 00:58:08,799
cross of one day i was gonna ask you you

1422
00:58:12,549 --> 00:58:10,559
know uh when we were talking about the

1423
00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:12,559
girona tower i was gonna ask you well

1424
00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:15,440
you know sort of between the

1425
00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:17,760
somewhere in between the tour magdala

1426
00:58:22,789 --> 00:58:20,720
and the in the girona tower sits the

1427
00:58:23,589 --> 00:58:22,799
great cross of one day

1428
00:58:25,349 --> 00:58:23,599
and

1429
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:25,359
i'm sure there has to be a connection to

1430
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:26,720
that as well

1431
00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:27,920
all these

1432
00:58:34,630 --> 00:58:32,400
symbols and structures it seems like

1433
00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:34,640
they're all related back to the same

1434
00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:36,559
people it's crazy

1435
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:38,640
they are in a lot of the overtones that

1436
00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:41,119
each of these places of mystery are in

1437
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:43,040
enochian

1438
00:58:48,549 --> 00:58:45,839
even the the nine layers of logs and the

1439
00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:48,559
money pit and the stone at the bottom

1440
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:50,799
match the book of enoch with the nine

1441
00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:53,440
chambers and the encoded stones

1442
00:58:58,870 --> 00:58:55,280
in the ninth chamber

1443
00:59:02,230 --> 00:58:58,880
so during this this late 19th century

1444
00:59:05,589 --> 00:59:02,240
or late of 18th century and early 19th

1445
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:05,599
century period even freemasonry devalued

1446
00:59:11,109 --> 00:59:07,920
the these enochian concepts over the

1447
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:11,119
solomonic concepts that are later become

1448
00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:13,440
associated with freemasonry so at the

1449
00:59:19,109 --> 00:59:16,000
time even the oak island treasure was

1450
00:59:20,549 --> 00:59:19,119
exposed in about 1795 there was a great

1451
00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:20,559
appreciation

1452
00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:22,640
of the book of enoch and those kind of

1453
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:26,079
metaphors and symbols and that's why i

1454
00:59:32,309 --> 00:59:29,520
was even amazed to find that james bruce

1455
00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:32,319
the famous ethiopian explorer who

1456
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:34,319
returned from ethiopia with three

1457
00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:37,440
ancient copies of the book of enoch

1458
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:39,520
had written a book about his travels

1459
00:59:43,270 --> 00:59:40,799
there

1460
00:59:47,109 --> 00:59:43,280
to lord halifax

1461
00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:47,119
the namesake of halifax nova scotia

1462
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:48,559
oh geez

1463
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:50,240
so the connections are endless and

1464
00:59:54,870 --> 00:59:52,720
really that that was a big coup

1465
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:54,880
for him to be able to obtain these

1466
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:57,119
ancient copies because it verified the

1467
01:00:01,270 --> 00:59:59,280
kind of beliefs

1468
01:00:03,109 --> 01:00:01,280
even in freemasonry and other row

1469
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:03,119
secretion circles and everything that

1470
01:00:06,870 --> 01:00:04,640
link us also

1471
01:00:09,270 --> 01:00:06,880
to the man in the mountain mythology of

1472
01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:09,280
charlemagne and these kind of hidden

1473
01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:12,640
treasures and crypt stories that occur

1474
01:00:17,270 --> 01:00:14,880
at each place the arcadian mysteries

1475
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:17,280
that manifest themselves

1476
01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:18,640
they sure do you know court we're going

1477
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:20,640
to have to take a quick break but i want

1478
01:00:25,510 --> 01:00:22,799
to definitely get into that aspect of it

1479
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:25,520
because uh that is really interesting

1480
01:00:28,789 --> 01:00:27,200
because i you know as you were talking

1481
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:28,799
about those of course i was thinking

1482
01:00:33,750 --> 01:00:31,440
about the mystery uh the mysteries

1483
01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:33,760
involving you know something buried or

1484
01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:35,920
someone buried in the region of renly

1485
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:38,559
chateau and it seems like there's always

1486
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:41,119
or a sleeping queen in the mountain you

1487
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:43,200
know that sort of thing it seems like we

1488
01:00:47,190 --> 01:00:45,760
do find that in all these locations that

1489
01:00:49,589 --> 01:00:47,200
i want you to talk a little bit more

1490
01:00:51,190 --> 01:00:49,599
about that after the break so when we

1491
01:00:53,270 --> 01:00:51,200
come back more with court lindel and

1492
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:53,280
we're also going to find out how to see

1493
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:56,720
more and read more of court when we get

1494
01:01:04,069 --> 01:01:02,470
welcome back to night vision i'm your

1495
01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:04,079
host renee barnett if you're just

1496
01:01:09,190 --> 01:01:06,400
joining us we have court lindell back

1497
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:09,200
with us tonight i said on i announced on

1498
01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:10,799
my facebook today that i was starting a

1499
01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:12,640
new reality show called

1500
01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:14,880
uh catching up with court you've heard

1501
01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:16,880
of keeping up with the kardashians well

1502
01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:18,480
this is a little bit

1503
01:01:23,270 --> 01:01:21,119
higher brow than that i might say and

1504
01:01:24,870 --> 01:01:23,280
we're talking about court lindel and his

1505
01:01:27,990 --> 01:01:24,880
great research

1506
01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:28,000
into oh my goodness uh history like you

1507
01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:29,359
wouldn't believe

1508
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:32,960
so now court before we get started uh

1509
01:01:38,230 --> 01:01:35,839
back on on what we were talking about

1510
01:01:41,349 --> 01:01:38,240
can you share with us how do we find

1511
01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:41,359
your videos how do we get your books

1512
01:01:45,109 --> 01:01:43,040
because you've got a lot of information

1513
01:01:46,549 --> 01:01:45,119
and i would suggest getting the books

1514
01:01:47,589 --> 01:01:46,559
because then you have them there in

1515
01:01:49,670 --> 01:01:47,599
front of you

1516
01:01:52,309 --> 01:01:49,680
you can you know i mark mine i hate to

1517
01:01:54,150 --> 01:01:52,319
say that but i do you know and i because

1518
01:01:56,470 --> 01:01:54,160
i want to go back to certain things if

1519
01:01:58,390 --> 01:01:56,480
they're they're great reference books my

1520
01:02:00,950 --> 01:01:58,400
goodness they offer a storehouse of

1521
01:02:03,270 --> 01:02:00,960
information so also the videos are good

1522
01:02:05,910 --> 01:02:03,280
though too so how do we see all that

1523
01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:05,920
court right well you can look on youtube

1524
01:02:10,470 --> 01:02:07,760
at the court lindal channel and there's

1525
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:10,480
over 120 videos there that i've made

1526
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:12,000
over the years

1527
01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:15,359
and uh recently my series of mysteries

1528
01:02:21,349 --> 01:02:17,920
and legends of northern california

1529
01:02:22,870 --> 01:02:21,359
mount shasta revealed is there that if

1530
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:22,880
you have a lowe's advantage card you can

1531
01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:24,640
get an extra five percent off every day

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01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:26,640
on items big or small so you can save an

1533
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extra five percent on a new coat of

1534
01:02:31,829 --> 01:02:30,079
paint updating appliances replacing the

1535
01:02:33,430 --> 01:02:31,839
flooring and even save an extra five

1536
01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:33,440
percent on little things like cleaning

1537
01:02:37,349 --> 01:02:34,960
supplies laundry detergent and air

1538
01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:37,359
filters the big to do's to the everyday

1539
01:02:40,950 --> 01:02:39,440
essentials you get an extra five percent

1540
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:40,960
savings every day when you use your

1541
01:02:44,789 --> 01:02:42,640
lowe's advantage card if you don't have

1542
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:44,799
one apply today all projects have a

1543
01:02:47,990 --> 01:02:46,720
starting point start with lows subject

1544
01:02:49,270 --> 01:02:48,000
to credit approval and can't be combined

1545
01:02:51,270 --> 01:02:49,280
with any other credit offers exclusion

1546
01:02:53,190 --> 01:02:51,280
supply c store for details u.s only kind

1547
01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:53,200
of explains a lot of the enochian

1548
01:02:57,190 --> 01:02:54,720
overtones

1549
01:02:59,750 --> 01:02:57,200
that i've been discussing and you can

1550
01:03:01,670 --> 01:02:59,760
get all my books just by word searching

1551
01:03:04,309 --> 01:03:01,680
court lindal books

1552
01:03:06,309 --> 01:03:04,319
they're all available on amazon.com and

1553
01:03:10,349 --> 01:03:06,319
createspace.com

1554
01:03:15,430 --> 01:03:12,069
survivalcell.blogspot.com as well to

1555
01:03:17,349 --> 01:03:15,440
book sales and the court lindoll page on

1556
01:03:18,789 --> 01:03:17,359
facebook

1557
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:18,799
that's all there

1558
01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:20,640
yeah i would definitely suggest the

1559
01:03:25,270 --> 01:03:23,760
books because uh they're great great

1560
01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:25,280
especially if you're doing any kind of

1561
01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:26,720
research at all

1562
01:03:31,270 --> 01:03:28,559
into these matters they're they're all

1563
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:31,280
connected as you see it used to sound

1564
01:03:34,870 --> 01:03:33,280
crazy you know when when people would

1565
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:34,880
say oh this is connected to this and

1566
01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:36,720
this is connected to that but what's

1567
01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:38,640
wonderful court about your work is that

1568
01:03:43,190 --> 01:03:40,960
you're showing us why and how they're

1569
01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:43,200
connected and it's not just some crazy

1570
01:03:46,470 --> 01:03:45,119
magic thing out there in the universe

1571
01:03:48,630 --> 01:03:46,480
you know where everything is just

1572
01:03:52,150 --> 01:03:48,640
magically connected these are all

1573
01:03:54,870 --> 01:03:52,160
connected by families throughout history

1574
01:03:56,829 --> 01:03:54,880
and bloodlines blood dyes

1575
01:03:59,029 --> 01:03:56,839
so um

1576
01:04:01,270 --> 01:03:59,039
now uh

1577
01:04:04,549 --> 01:04:01,280
you know i have to say now where did we

1578
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:04,559
where did you want to pick up uh

1579
01:04:08,309 --> 01:04:06,480
well we were talking about how a lot of

1580
01:04:10,829 --> 01:04:08,319
these things resembled the man in the

1581
01:04:13,990 --> 01:04:10,839
mountain mythology and kind of a

1582
01:04:17,109 --> 01:04:14,000
rosicrucian philosophy of christian

1583
01:04:18,870 --> 01:04:17,119
rosencrantz being interred in a mountain

1584
01:04:21,670 --> 01:04:18,880
with a library

1585
01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:21,680
of important gnostic or hidden

1586
01:04:26,309 --> 01:04:23,839
information which of course brings to

1587
01:04:27,270 --> 01:04:26,319
mind like mount shasta in the saint

1588
01:04:28,789 --> 01:04:27,280
germain

1589
01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:28,799
legends there

1590
01:04:32,150 --> 01:04:30,000
uh now

1591
01:04:33,910 --> 01:04:32,160
saint germain there really was

1592
01:04:35,349 --> 01:04:33,920
a st germain connection though there

1593
01:04:38,069 --> 01:04:35,359
wasn't there

1594
01:04:40,309 --> 01:04:38,079
yes and in addition he has some kind of

1595
01:04:42,870 --> 01:04:40,319
distant uh relations to the stuart

1596
01:04:43,990 --> 01:04:42,880
family via his brother's marriage as

1597
01:04:47,270 --> 01:04:44,000
well

1598
01:04:49,829 --> 01:04:47,280
so he's related to elizabeth of bohemia

1599
01:04:51,750 --> 01:04:49,839
and prince rupert of the rhine even and

1600
01:04:54,789 --> 01:04:51,760
the current

1601
01:04:55,990 --> 01:04:54,799
stuart monarchs of england

1602
01:04:57,910 --> 01:04:56,000
distantly

1603
01:04:59,589 --> 01:04:57,920
so it's interesting that he does possess

1604
01:05:00,710 --> 01:04:59,599
that relation given

1605
01:05:02,950 --> 01:05:00,720
the kind of

1606
01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:02,960
information that i speculated about the

1607
01:05:07,029 --> 01:05:04,799
frenchman's tower

1608
01:05:09,190 --> 01:05:07,039
being related to mount shasta because

1609
01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:09,200
it's due south of mount shasta if you

1610
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:11,280
create an axis out of the frenchman's

1611
01:05:16,870 --> 01:05:14,799
tower you see that a meridian is created

1612
01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:16,880
that connects it to mount shasta so i

1613
01:05:19,270 --> 01:05:17,680
believe

1614
01:05:21,990 --> 01:05:19,280
they're referencing the man in the

1615
01:05:23,270 --> 01:05:22,000
mountain mythology and the same kind of

1616
01:05:28,309 --> 01:05:23,280
uh

1617
01:05:30,710 --> 01:05:28,319
being shown to us at rainless chateau

1618
01:05:32,549 --> 01:05:30,720
that suggests there's a hidden crypt or

1619
01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:32,559
a hidden treasure and we see the same

1620
01:05:36,870 --> 01:05:33,920
story

1621
01:05:38,950 --> 01:05:36,880
being repeated at mount shasta via the

1622
01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:38,960
legend of j.c brown

1623
01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:40,400
which includes

1624
01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:43,680
a mining engineer named jc brown

1625
01:05:47,750 --> 01:05:45,839
who worked for the lord caldrae mining

1626
01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:47,760
company

1627
01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:48,960
that found

1628
01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:51,359
a tunnel going deep into mount shasta

1629
01:05:56,710 --> 01:05:54,160
and he discovered rooms full of mummies

1630
01:05:57,990 --> 01:05:56,720
golden tablets and strange weapons and

1631
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:58,000
treasure

1632
01:06:02,549 --> 01:05:59,839
so this kind of mix

1633
01:06:05,589 --> 01:06:02,559
matches all of that and i lo and behold

1634
01:06:08,230 --> 01:06:05,599
when i researched you know that story

1635
01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:08,240
two of the biggest names that stick out

1636
01:06:12,230 --> 01:06:10,079
are cal dre

1637
01:06:14,950 --> 01:06:12,240
and j.c brown

1638
01:06:16,870 --> 01:06:14,960
and when i studied the lords of cal dre

1639
01:06:19,430 --> 01:06:16,880
in england i discovered that they were

1640
01:06:21,510 --> 01:06:19,440
the uh montagu

1641
01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:21,520
family that had gained that title

1642
01:06:27,430 --> 01:06:23,680
through landed ways and inner marriage

1643
01:06:30,150 --> 01:06:27,440
but their real name was brown

1644
01:06:32,710 --> 01:06:30,160
and so the lord caldras of england were

1645
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:32,720
actually named brown

1646
01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:35,039
and i believe this kind of legend in the

1647
01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:36,640
1930s

1648
01:06:44,630 --> 01:06:43,109
lead people to the assumption that it is

1649
01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:44,640
associated

1650
01:06:48,870 --> 01:06:46,720
with the frenchman's tower

1651
01:06:52,230 --> 01:06:48,880
where we go and see peter couts of the

1652
01:06:55,029 --> 01:06:52,240
pound couch banking family who had very

1653
01:06:57,670 --> 01:06:55,039
close family relations to the montague

1654
01:07:00,549 --> 01:06:57,680
brown lords of caldrei

1655
01:07:03,829 --> 01:07:00,559
and their genealogy is intermarried and

1656
01:07:06,710 --> 01:07:03,839
as i said this includes the colt family

1657
01:07:08,710 --> 01:07:06,720
so so all of these suggestions are there

1658
01:07:11,510 --> 01:07:08,720
that these kind of things i believe

1659
01:07:13,750 --> 01:07:11,520
developed from constantine the great

1660
01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:13,760
and we know later charlemagne the first

1661
01:07:18,230 --> 01:07:16,000
holy roman emperor

1662
01:07:20,950 --> 01:07:18,240
there's a lot of legends associated with

1663
01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:20,960
him in ocking cathedral his octagonal

1664
01:07:25,029 --> 01:07:22,480
structure

1665
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:25,039
that uh his descendants were led on kind

1666
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:27,280
of a mystery scoop school

1667
01:07:32,230 --> 01:07:30,480
quest to find his remains and open the

1668
01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:32,240
vault and find

1669
01:07:38,549 --> 01:07:33,119
a

1670
01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:38,559
to

1671
01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:44,230
bring in the

1672
01:07:48,470 --> 01:07:45,920
german kings

1673
01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:48,480
so these were part of the ceremony to to

1674
01:07:54,069 --> 01:07:51,839
coronate the kings of germany

1675
01:07:56,549 --> 01:07:54,079
so things like that is meant i believe

1676
01:07:59,670 --> 01:07:56,559
to infer a legendary kind of

1677
01:08:01,349 --> 01:07:59,680
metaphorical trail that you can follow

1678
01:08:03,430 --> 01:08:01,359
to the truth

1679
01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:03,440
and none of this means there aren't real

1680
01:08:07,349 --> 01:08:05,440
treasures or things hidden

1681
01:08:09,430 --> 01:08:07,359
it could be the remains of people and

1682
01:08:12,069 --> 01:08:09,440
this is what's inferred even at rainless

1683
01:08:13,109 --> 01:08:12,079
chateau i think with pierre pontart said

1684
01:08:14,710 --> 01:08:13,119
that

1685
01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:14,720
things similar

1686
01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:17,040
to that that that to know this knowledge

1687
01:08:21,829 --> 01:08:18,640
shows you are

1688
01:08:23,669 --> 01:08:21,839
part of the family and or have the right

1689
01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:23,679
to be considered that

1690
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:26,880
so these are things that are taught

1691
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:29,279
possibly to gentry groups of people

1692
01:08:32,309 --> 01:08:30,960
through time where they learn all of

1693
01:08:34,070 --> 01:08:32,319
these things and

1694
01:08:36,789 --> 01:08:34,080
express themselves and some of them

1695
01:08:39,829 --> 01:08:36,799
become myths and legends along the way

1696
01:08:42,229 --> 01:08:39,839
that do involve these kind of landscape

1697
01:08:43,590 --> 01:08:42,239
arrangements of

1698
01:08:45,669 --> 01:08:43,600
architecture

1699
01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:45,679
artwork and other things like that that

1700
01:08:49,269 --> 01:08:47,120
do tell you

1701
01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:49,279
in a very real way i mean this

1702
01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:51,440
information is easy to overlook because

1703
01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:54,400
we often dismiss the most obvious thing

1704
01:08:57,430 --> 01:08:56,480
but when you see a family like de la

1705
01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:57,440
torre

1706
01:09:01,910 --> 01:09:00,000
with their arms including the tower

1707
01:09:03,269 --> 01:09:01,920
and the cathar

1708
01:09:05,590 --> 01:09:03,279
cross

1709
01:09:08,070 --> 01:09:05,600
of the languidokuro salon

1710
01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:08,080
then you start to see what may be

1711
01:09:12,149 --> 01:09:10,159
inferred by looking after that and

1712
01:09:13,269 --> 01:09:12,159
following the trails of clues out that

1713
01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:13,279
lead you

1714
01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:15,600
to all of these things that show you

1715
01:09:20,149 --> 01:09:17,920
this was a mystery school that was

1716
01:09:21,510 --> 01:09:20,159
created we often see mystery schools

1717
01:09:24,149 --> 01:09:21,520
being created

1718
01:09:26,709 --> 01:09:24,159
to preserve knowledge and history of

1719
01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:26,719
persecuted groups of people

1720
01:09:31,430 --> 01:09:29,279
just like the christians of early rome

1721
01:09:33,510 --> 01:09:31,440
who created a mystery school in which

1722
01:09:34,950 --> 01:09:33,520
christ was represented by the fish or

1723
01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:34,960
the lamb

1724
01:09:39,669 --> 01:09:37,120
and things like that so these symbols

1725
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:39,679
would be understood by them

1726
01:09:45,749 --> 01:09:42,480
to identify other christians

1727
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:45,759
so we see the use of greek mythology

1728
01:09:49,990 --> 01:09:48,239
other you know forms of history like the

1729
01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:50,000
history of the maravinians and

1730
01:09:55,430 --> 01:09:51,920
everything that they believe they're

1731
01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:55,440
linked to via their plantagenet of

1732
01:09:59,189 --> 01:09:58,159
genealogy

1733
01:10:01,669 --> 01:09:59,199
well

1734
01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:01,679
so do you think that

1735
01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:03,040
this is

1736
01:10:08,390 --> 01:10:05,600
in some way could we call it

1737
01:10:11,030 --> 01:10:08,400
almost an initiatory path

1738
01:10:14,550 --> 01:10:11,040
to when you're rather than

1739
01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:14,560
a treasure map that leads to

1740
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:17,520
some kind of tangible treasure

1741
01:10:22,630 --> 01:10:20,080
right do you think that this is like a

1742
01:10:24,790 --> 01:10:22,640
pathway to knowledge then

1743
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:24,800
i think it is a pathway to knowledge but

1744
01:10:30,149 --> 01:10:26,560
i think all of it wouldn't have been

1745
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:30,159
done without actual items being hidden

1746
01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:33,120
now whether those things are valuable

1747
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:35,840
golden treasures or information that's

1748
01:10:39,110 --> 01:10:38,320
always inferred and really what i see in

1749
01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:39,120
like

1750
01:10:44,470 --> 01:10:41,679
in the in arcadia the book the treasure

1751
01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:44,480
story in there is warning you not to

1752
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:47,120
take this too seriously and don't and

1753
01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:49,360
beware that it's a folly

1754
01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:51,600
and then later even in the famous beale

1755
01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:52,800
papers

1756
01:10:56,950 --> 01:10:54,719
that exposed the beal cipher of the

1757
01:11:00,790 --> 01:10:56,960
beale treasure to the world in the late

1758
01:11:02,630 --> 01:11:00,800
1800s there's a very similar warning

1759
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,640
and as i followed that all out that

1760
01:11:05,830 --> 01:11:04,560
links directly back to williamsburg

1761
01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:05,840
virginia

1762
01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:08,080
and jamestown and the early colonists of

1763
01:11:13,030 --> 01:11:10,880
virginia that had a lot of family ties

1764
01:11:15,189 --> 01:11:13,040
to these same groups of people

1765
01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:15,199
associated with charles the first and

1766
01:11:17,910 --> 01:11:16,320
second

1767
01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:17,920
who were also you know kind of the

1768
01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:20,080
genesis of the jacobite movement and

1769
01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:21,760
that they were beheaded

1770
01:11:26,070 --> 01:11:23,760
for their faith and kind of lack of

1771
01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:26,080
cooperation with the parliament or the

1772
01:11:29,510 --> 01:11:28,080
representative government of england at

1773
01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:29,520
the time

1774
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:32,000
so a lot of history in williamsburg we

1775
01:11:38,229 --> 01:11:34,880
have another another similar mystery

1776
01:11:41,110 --> 01:11:38,239
of of of something buried of great value

1777
01:11:43,669 --> 01:11:41,120
whether it be documents or or whatever

1778
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:43,679
at brewton parish church right that one

1779
01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:46,800
states outright that it is information

1780
01:11:50,229 --> 01:11:48,800
that it's the papers of sir francis

1781
01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:50,239
bacon

1782
01:11:54,550 --> 01:11:52,080
you know i i've always thought that you

1783
01:11:56,470 --> 01:11:54,560
know if if we find something if somebody

1784
01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:56,480
really finds something i do hope it's

1785
01:12:01,830 --> 01:11:58,960
information i mean you know yes it'd be

1786
01:12:03,830 --> 01:12:01,840
wonderful to find a a a gold treasure

1787
01:12:04,790 --> 01:12:03,840
but what does that tell us you know

1788
01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:04,800
really

1789
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:06,800
if it's a bunch of gold coins or or

1790
01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:08,640
whatever it could possibly be even if

1791
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:11,600
it's an item that you know of great uh

1792
01:12:15,430 --> 01:12:13,760
value that we that we know about a

1793
01:12:18,149 --> 01:12:15,440
legendary item like the ark of the

1794
01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:18,159
covenant i would really prefer

1795
01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:20,560
to get knowledge and more information

1796
01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:22,640
and that's what i was always hoping for

1797
01:12:26,709 --> 01:12:24,239
you know that would be found at reynolds

1798
01:12:29,030 --> 01:12:26,719
chateau was something that was going to

1799
01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:29,040
give us some more information

1800
01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:32,400
and uh that would be the biggest find

1801
01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:34,719
later people too i found may have used

1802
01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:36,960
that we're aware of this the geographic

1803
01:12:41,910 --> 01:12:39,199
qualities of buildings possibly pointing

1804
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:41,920
or there being a star in the landscape

1805
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:44,080
could have used this to hide items of

1806
01:12:48,070 --> 01:12:45,840
value themselves

1807
01:12:50,470 --> 01:12:48,080
and we see like the knights of the

1808
01:12:52,149 --> 01:12:50,480
golden circle in the civil war

1809
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:52,159
would have been aware of all of this

1810
01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:54,000
through their heritage stemming from

1811
01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:55,360
jamestown

1812
01:12:59,270 --> 01:12:57,520
and williamsburg as well

1813
01:13:01,590 --> 01:12:59,280
and they may have used it to actually

1814
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:01,600
hide treasure later and the same

1815
01:13:06,149 --> 01:13:03,600
let me make this point too everything i

1816
01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:06,159
found out about arcadia

1817
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:09,440
and philip sydney the book arcadia

1818
01:13:14,550 --> 01:13:11,920
doesn't really close the door on there

1819
01:13:16,390 --> 01:13:14,560
being a treasure at oak island

1820
01:13:18,790 --> 01:13:16,400
though though we can assume that this

1821
01:13:21,270 --> 01:13:18,800
whole thing was set up to

1822
01:13:23,270 --> 01:13:21,280
resemble what was in the book

1823
01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:23,280
if you look into the life of philip

1824
01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:25,840
sydney he was very close friends with

1825
01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:28,320
sir francis drake

1826
01:13:34,870 --> 01:13:31,280
the famous privateer and the first

1827
01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:34,880
englishman to circumnavigate the globe

1828
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:37,679
and really in sir francis drake's

1829
01:13:43,030 --> 01:13:41,280
earlier voyages he went to panama

1830
01:13:44,830 --> 01:13:43,040
where he uh

1831
01:13:47,430 --> 01:13:44,840
actually met up with a

1832
01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:47,440
friendship that was captained by one of

1833
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:49,600
the most famous french cartographers

1834
01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:53,040
that ever existed captain tetsu

1835
01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:54,320
and they both

1836
01:13:59,189 --> 01:13:56,880
waylaid the mule train coming from the

1837
01:14:01,350 --> 01:13:59,199
pacific side of panama

1838
01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:01,360
to the caribbean side

1839
01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:05,280
and uh in the process tetsu was killed

1840
01:14:09,110 --> 01:14:07,440
and sir francis drake escaped with a

1841
01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:09,120
large treasure

1842
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:11,280
now really you know the way the trade

1843
01:14:15,830 --> 01:14:12,880
winds work and everything in the

1844
01:14:17,669 --> 01:14:15,840
atlantic when people from europe come to

1845
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:17,679
the caribbean they take a southerly

1846
01:14:22,390 --> 01:14:19,920
route down the west coast of africa

1847
01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:22,400
where the prevailing currents bring them

1848
01:14:26,070 --> 01:14:24,080
to the caribbean

1849
01:14:27,110 --> 01:14:26,080
on the way back they follow the gulf

1850
01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:27,120
stream

1851
01:14:31,830 --> 01:14:29,760
which goes right by oak island nova

1852
01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:31,840
scotia

1853
01:14:35,590 --> 01:14:33,600
so we we see

1854
01:14:36,790 --> 01:14:35,600
i mean there is a slim possibility

1855
01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:36,800
there's no

1856
01:14:41,830 --> 01:14:39,440
recorded you know evidence of this

1857
01:14:44,149 --> 01:14:41,840
but sir francis drake's close friendship

1858
01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:44,159
with philip sydney may dictate that he

1859
01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:47,520
told them a story about a treasure

1860
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:50,960
hidden in that manner on oak island

1861
01:14:53,669 --> 01:14:52,480
and it's really interesting because

1862
01:14:55,709 --> 01:14:53,679
later

1863
01:14:57,830 --> 01:14:55,719
when drake was arranging his

1864
01:15:01,430 --> 01:14:57,840
circumnavigation voyage

1865
01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:01,440
his voyage to panama was in about 1574

1866
01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:04,080
when arcadia was being written by philip

1867
01:15:07,430 --> 01:15:05,360
sydney

1868
01:15:08,790 --> 01:15:07,440
so when it came time to him for to

1869
01:15:11,189 --> 01:15:08,800
disembark

1870
01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:11,199
for his circumnavigation voyager what

1871
01:15:15,110 --> 01:15:13,040
would become that

1872
01:15:18,310 --> 01:15:15,120
philip sydney actually showed up at the

1873
01:15:21,189 --> 01:15:18,320
dock packed and ready to go with him

1874
01:15:23,430 --> 01:15:21,199
and queen elizabeth sent an agent

1875
01:15:27,510 --> 01:15:23,440
to stop him from doing this because he

1876
01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:29,910
yes that's how close of a friend he was

1877
01:15:34,950 --> 01:15:32,800
to sir francis drake and closely

1878
01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:34,960
connected with queen elizabeth

1879
01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:37,440
and that also leads us to how

1880
01:15:42,790 --> 01:15:40,480
influential the wilton riders circle

1881
01:15:44,550 --> 01:15:42,800
of mary sydney the countess of pembroke

1882
01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:44,560
and her sons being

1883
01:15:48,470 --> 01:15:46,880
of the subjects of the dedication of the

1884
01:15:50,310 --> 01:15:48,480
first folio

1885
01:15:52,149 --> 01:15:50,320
of shakespeare

1886
01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:52,159
so it's all involved with all of these

1887
01:15:57,510 --> 01:15:54,480
suspects and their writers

1888
01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:57,520
and artists again at an earlier date

1889
01:16:02,870 --> 01:16:00,400
than the academy of arcadia

1890
01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:02,880
and other groups that are inferred

1891
01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:05,280
as well that are similar so all

1892
01:16:09,430 --> 01:16:07,120
throughout this time we see

1893
01:16:11,990 --> 01:16:09,440
this kind of artwork and literature

1894
01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:12,000
having a real impact and actually

1895
01:16:17,590 --> 01:16:15,360
possibly containing a real information

1896
01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:17,600
you interviewed peter adminson who broke

1897
01:16:22,630 --> 01:16:20,320
the codes in the first folio and it's

1898
01:16:26,390 --> 01:16:22,640
amazing because in a way those

1899
01:16:28,470 --> 01:16:26,400
could be relating to arcadia the book

1900
01:16:31,030 --> 01:16:28,480
like a code in shakespeare is now

1901
01:16:34,709 --> 01:16:31,040
exposing a concept that's included in

1902
01:16:36,630 --> 01:16:34,719
the book arcadia in nova scotia

1903
01:16:38,470 --> 01:16:36,640
and then when we view it in terms of all

1904
01:16:41,750 --> 01:16:38,480
of these family relations between

1905
01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:41,760
william alexander

1906
01:16:46,229 --> 01:16:43,600
bonnie prince charlie

1907
01:16:48,229 --> 01:16:46,239
and other scottish and english nobles it

1908
01:16:50,390 --> 01:16:48,239
leads us you know to the assumption that

1909
01:16:52,790 --> 01:16:50,400
there's more to the story than we know

1910
01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:52,800
what's going on i mean i even found

1911
01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:55,440
direct connections the the american

1912
01:17:00,229 --> 01:16:58,239
alexander family that descended from

1913
01:17:02,630 --> 01:17:00,239
william alexander

1914
01:17:05,430 --> 01:17:02,640
owned the property that would become all

1915
01:17:06,630 --> 01:17:05,440
of washington dc south of the potomac

1916
01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:06,640
river

1917
01:17:11,350 --> 01:17:08,560
and there are also the namesake of

1918
01:17:13,669 --> 01:17:11,360
alexandria virginia

1919
01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:13,679
then during the revolutionary war here

1920
01:17:17,510 --> 01:17:16,000
comes our society of the cincinnati

1921
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:17,520
connection again

1922
01:17:21,990 --> 01:17:19,920
general william alexander

1923
01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:22,000
served under general lee of the

1924
01:17:27,750 --> 01:17:25,360
continental army and worked in direct

1925
01:17:29,590 --> 01:17:27,760
command of general washington and had a

1926
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:29,600
very successful

1927
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:32,640
record in combat during the revolution

1928
01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:35,280
and then this gentleman was also named

1929
01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:37,360
william alexander general william

1930
01:17:41,110 --> 01:17:38,719
alexander

1931
01:17:44,229 --> 01:17:41,120
he was the line of succession for the

1932
01:17:46,709 --> 01:17:44,239
title of the earl of sterling

1933
01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:46,719
and he actually returned to scotland and

1934
01:17:52,470 --> 01:17:49,120
demanded his title after the

1935
01:17:54,550 --> 01:17:52,480
revolutionary war

1936
01:17:56,310 --> 01:17:54,560
and he's got the scottish peerage

1937
01:17:59,590 --> 01:17:56,320
awarded him this

1938
01:18:01,750 --> 01:17:59,600
but the english parliament denied it

1939
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:01,760
but for the rest of his life he

1940
01:18:07,030 --> 01:18:05,040
called himself lord sterling

1941
01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:07,040
and so this is an interesting connection

1942
01:18:10,950 --> 01:18:08,960
leading us again to

1943
01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:10,960
how a lot of

1944
01:18:15,590 --> 01:18:13,120
american colonists were given land in

1945
01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:15,600
nova scotia after general lawrence took

1946
01:18:18,550 --> 01:18:16,640
over

1947
01:18:19,830 --> 01:18:18,560
they fought for the colonies during the

1948
01:18:21,510 --> 01:18:19,840
revolution

1949
01:18:24,030 --> 01:18:21,520
and were allowed to retain their

1950
01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:24,040
properties in nova scotia after the

1951
01:18:30,630 --> 01:18:27,120
revolutionary war and this includes the

1952
01:18:32,630 --> 01:18:30,640
family of henry wadsworth longfellow and

1953
01:18:37,990 --> 01:18:32,640
edgar allan poe

1954
01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:38,000
again he keeps popping up everywhere

1955
01:18:41,750 --> 01:18:39,520
right

1956
01:18:42,950 --> 01:18:41,760
i i believe poe knew about rain le

1957
01:18:45,189 --> 01:18:42,960
chateau

1958
01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:45,199
oak island and the truth of the newport

1959
01:18:48,630 --> 01:18:46,320
tower

1960
01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:48,640
and is that because of uh his work the

1961
01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:50,000
gold bug

1962
01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:52,320
that's in part but edgar allan poe's

1963
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:55,679
mother was an arnold

1964
01:19:03,270 --> 01:18:58,640
same family as benedict

1965
01:19:07,430 --> 01:19:05,830
so he even has direct family connections

1966
01:19:10,070 --> 01:19:07,440
to the man

1967
01:19:12,070 --> 01:19:10,080
that history tells us built the newport

1968
01:19:14,070 --> 01:19:12,080
tower if you disregard the other

1969
01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:14,080
theories that it's norse or whatever

1970
01:19:17,189 --> 01:19:14,960
else

1971
01:19:19,990 --> 01:19:17,199
history says benedict arnold called it

1972
01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:20,000
his stone-built windmill

1973
01:19:23,910 --> 01:19:22,000
which was built by probably thomas

1974
01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:23,920
stafford

1975
01:19:30,709 --> 01:19:26,400
the first windmill builder in new

1976
01:19:36,550 --> 01:19:33,910
oh he's a plantagenet yes and edgar

1977
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:36,560
allan poe's father was one of the supply

1978
01:19:40,149 --> 01:19:38,880
masters during the revolutionary war

1979
01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:40,159
making him

1980
01:19:44,229 --> 01:19:42,719
eligible to be in the society of the

1981
01:19:46,149 --> 01:19:44,239
cincinnati

1982
01:19:48,550 --> 01:19:46,159
and later during the marquis de

1983
01:19:49,669 --> 01:19:48,560
lafayette's last visit to the united

1984
01:19:52,229 --> 01:19:49,679
states

1985
01:19:54,630 --> 01:19:52,239
edgar allan poe as a young man served in

1986
01:19:59,830 --> 01:19:54,640
his honor guard and actually knew and

1987
01:20:03,990 --> 01:20:02,149
he was all over it well there's many

1988
01:20:06,149 --> 01:20:04,000
possible avenues where poe could have

1989
01:20:08,470 --> 01:20:06,159
learned this information via his family

1990
01:20:10,709 --> 01:20:08,480
connections from his mother

1991
01:20:13,030 --> 01:20:10,719
who was just two generations removed

1992
01:20:15,270 --> 01:20:13,040
from the same source as benedict arnold

1993
01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:15,280
senior and junior

1994
01:20:19,350 --> 01:20:16,960
or he could have learned this at the

1995
01:20:20,390 --> 01:20:19,360
university of virginia while he attended

1996
01:20:22,310 --> 01:20:20,400
that

1997
01:20:24,470 --> 01:20:22,320
while president jefferson was still

1998
01:20:25,910 --> 01:20:24,480
alive and known to meet with prominent

1999
01:20:26,950 --> 01:20:25,920
students

2000
01:20:29,270 --> 01:20:26,960
and

2001
01:20:30,830 --> 01:20:29,280
court what was benedict arnold's

2002
01:20:32,790 --> 01:20:30,840
traitorous

2003
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:32,800
act

2004
01:20:37,510 --> 01:20:35,600
he decided he this is really interesting

2005
01:20:39,270 --> 01:20:37,520
because this ties into the treasure

2006
01:20:41,189 --> 01:20:39,280
legend that you and i have discussed

2007
01:20:44,149 --> 01:20:41,199
about our friend matthew mcgiren in

2008
01:20:46,709 --> 01:20:44,159
western pennsylvania oh sure

2009
01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:46,719
he got in a dispute over

2010
01:20:51,189 --> 01:20:49,360
colonel easton who was also

2011
01:20:53,590 --> 01:20:51,199
stems from the early residents of

2012
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:53,600
newport rhode island and may be related

2013
01:20:58,070 --> 01:20:56,080
to the famous pirate peter easton and

2014
01:21:00,550 --> 01:20:58,080
thomas jefferson

2015
01:21:04,310 --> 01:21:00,560
he had accused a few of his fellow

2016
01:21:06,550 --> 01:21:04,320
officers of pilfering a payroll

2017
01:21:08,229 --> 01:21:06,560
from fort ticonderoga

2018
01:21:10,550 --> 01:21:08,239
and this really just soured his

2019
01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:10,560
relationship with his fellow officers so

2020
01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:12,880
much that in the end he elected

2021
01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:16,800
uh to go over to the british side

2022
01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:19,120
that's even part of the the treasure

2023
01:21:23,910 --> 01:21:21,600
there in western pennsylvania that you

2024
01:21:26,149 --> 01:21:23,920
know after i got to know matthew for a

2025
01:21:28,229 --> 01:21:26,159
while we discovered that even

2026
01:21:30,630 --> 01:21:28,239
or he told me that the property where

2027
01:21:34,070 --> 01:21:30,640
all of this was located was once owned

2028
01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:34,080
by henry wadsworth longfellow

2029
01:21:37,350 --> 01:21:36,480
wow so the connections are endless with

2030
01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:37,360
these

2031
01:21:43,270 --> 01:21:40,320
uh artists and literature uh literary

2032
01:21:45,350 --> 01:21:43,280
figures telling us i think the truth

2033
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:45,360
about these things in a way that it's

2034
01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:47,280
hard to explain to other people and

2035
01:21:50,709 --> 01:21:49,440
convince them that it's real

2036
01:21:53,189 --> 01:21:50,719
because

2037
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:53,199
you know we see in the gold bug

2038
01:21:58,149 --> 01:21:55,360
of poe

2039
01:22:00,470 --> 01:21:58,159
the quote about the bishop or the bishop

2040
01:22:01,430 --> 01:22:00,480
having a shot from the devil's

2041
01:22:04,070 --> 01:22:01,440
chair

2042
01:22:07,110 --> 01:22:04,080
that reminds us reminds us of uh runley

2043
01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:07,120
band devil's armchair there

2044
01:22:11,110 --> 01:22:09,440
and other parts of the story with the

2045
01:22:13,270 --> 01:22:11,120
skull that's reminiscent of the

2046
01:22:15,189 --> 01:22:13,280
magdalene pentinate and all the

2047
01:22:17,669 --> 01:22:15,199
paintings that are famous including a

2048
01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:17,679
copy of that owned by thomas jefferson

2049
01:22:22,310 --> 01:22:20,560
by the famous artist rivera

2050
01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:22,320
and

2051
01:22:27,510 --> 01:22:24,400
other elements of the goldberg even the

2052
01:22:29,990 --> 01:22:27,520
main character's name is legrand

2053
01:22:32,709 --> 01:22:30,000
and this is stated by thomas jefferson

2054
01:22:35,110 --> 01:22:32,719
to have been his favorite architect

2055
01:22:37,669 --> 01:22:35,120
and also the inspiration

2056
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:37,679
for him creating the oval-shaped

2057
01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:40,000
dome of monticello

2058
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:43,040
based on the designs of legrand

2059
01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:45,120
so in the book in the story of the

2060
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:47,440
goldbug the main character who finds the

2061
01:22:50,830 --> 01:22:48,639
treasure

2062
01:22:54,629 --> 01:22:50,840
using the skull in the

2063
01:22:57,590 --> 01:22:54,639
tree just like uh here we go the image

2064
01:22:59,669 --> 01:22:57,600
of oak island again

2065
01:23:02,149 --> 01:22:59,679
and and what i found this is the kind of

2066
01:23:04,149 --> 01:23:02,159
really mind-blowing stuff i find with if

2067
01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:04,159
you go to the star that henry lincoln

2068
01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:05,679
defined

2069
01:23:09,189 --> 01:23:06,880
in the

2070
01:23:11,910 --> 01:23:09,199
landscape of rainless chateau after i

2071
01:23:14,470 --> 01:23:11,920
had noted all of these similarities

2072
01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:14,480
the star actually points to

2073
01:23:20,790 --> 01:23:16,800
sullivan's island south carolina where

2074
01:23:23,030 --> 01:23:20,800
the story of the gold bug takes place

2075
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:23,040
that is wild

2076
01:23:27,750 --> 01:23:25,440
so when i usually what i do that's what

2077
01:23:29,350 --> 01:23:27,760
happened to me in the french tower first

2078
01:23:31,270 --> 01:23:29,360
frenchman's tower i'd

2079
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:31,280
developed this theory that

2080
01:23:35,830 --> 01:23:33,360
andre 5 was behind it because the

2081
01:23:38,310 --> 01:23:35,840
similarities in the lives of

2082
01:23:40,229 --> 01:23:38,320
peter coutts in the date ranges and

2083
01:23:44,070 --> 01:23:40,239
everything involved in what i had found

2084
01:23:46,870 --> 01:23:44,080
out about the couch bank and everything

2085
01:23:50,070 --> 01:23:46,880
and then i found out that chateau

2086
01:23:52,629 --> 01:23:50,080
chambord of henry v the dukedish on

2087
01:23:54,870 --> 01:23:52,639
board the exiled king of france

2088
01:23:57,110 --> 01:23:54,880
the linear aspect of his estate in

2089
01:24:00,470 --> 01:23:57,120
france points to the frenchman's tower

2090
01:24:02,310 --> 01:24:00,480
in palo alto california

2091
01:24:04,149 --> 01:24:02,320
i mean the odds of this even given a

2092
01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:04,159
margin of error

2093
01:24:07,750 --> 01:24:06,159
you know given surveying techniques of

2094
01:24:10,629 --> 01:24:07,760
different eras and different map

2095
01:24:14,149 --> 01:24:10,639
projections which i'm well versed in

2096
01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:14,159
uh due to my studies sure that that this

2097
01:24:16,470 --> 01:24:14,880
is

2098
01:24:18,310 --> 01:24:16,480
incredible

2099
01:24:20,629 --> 01:24:18,320
now you

2100
01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:20,639
absolutely you said the uh the

2101
01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:24,719
frenchman's tower in palo alto points to

2102
01:24:28,709 --> 01:24:26,239
mount shasta

2103
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:28,719
uh where else does it point to

2104
01:24:32,629 --> 01:24:31,600
well it's situated in in a in a way that

2105
01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:32,639
um

2106
01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:35,040
it's due south of the mountain itself so

2107
01:24:39,669 --> 01:24:38,080
that that creates a prime meridian and

2108
01:24:43,270 --> 01:24:39,679
really i haven't found many other

2109
01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:43,280
associations using that as an axis

2110
01:24:48,149 --> 01:24:45,920
diagonal scheme like i have the others

2111
01:24:51,750 --> 01:24:48,159
but what's interesting is you know the

2112
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:51,760
the henry uh five's family name is our

2113
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:53,840
toy

2114
01:24:58,229 --> 01:24:55,600
and uh

2115
01:25:00,390 --> 01:24:58,239
along this meridian created between the

2116
01:25:02,709 --> 01:25:00,400
frenchman's tower in mount shasta is the

2117
01:25:04,629 --> 01:25:02,719
smallest town of our toy

2118
01:25:06,390 --> 01:25:04,639
right near where i live here in chico

2119
01:25:08,870 --> 01:25:06,400
california

2120
01:25:10,950 --> 01:25:08,880
and this town was only named that

2121
01:25:13,990 --> 01:25:10,960
at about the time of world war one when

2122
01:25:16,149 --> 01:25:14,000
it was called germantown

2123
01:25:17,750 --> 01:25:16,159
and the real story goes that a troop

2124
01:25:19,830 --> 01:25:17,760
train came through and stopped in

2125
01:25:22,310 --> 01:25:19,840
germantown and the troops destroyed the

2126
01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:22,320
town because it was called that

2127
01:25:26,550 --> 01:25:24,880
so they changed the name to our toy

2128
01:25:30,629 --> 01:25:26,560
which is really interesting too because

2129
01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:30,639
our toy means artesian spring

2130
01:25:34,070 --> 01:25:32,960
and just recently

2131
01:25:36,229 --> 01:25:34,080
the town

2132
01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:36,239
corning which is adjacent to our toy

2133
01:25:40,390 --> 01:25:38,560
turned down nestle to have a bottling

2134
01:25:41,910 --> 01:25:40,400
plant there of water

2135
01:25:44,310 --> 01:25:41,920
and the same thing recently just

2136
01:25:46,870 --> 01:25:44,320
happened in mount shasta in mcleod along

2137
01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:46,880
the same meridian that's established

2138
01:25:51,830 --> 01:25:49,679
using the frenchman's tower oh boy i got

2139
01:25:53,910 --> 01:25:51,840
some i got some ideas about that water

2140
01:25:58,070 --> 01:25:53,920
but you know what court we're going to

2141
01:26:00,470 --> 01:25:58,080
have to wrap it up it's just uh

2142
01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:00,480
music is rolling what can i say

2143
01:26:05,590 --> 01:26:02,880
thank you so much court for being on

2144
01:26:08,470 --> 01:26:05,600
tonight i want to thank again don ecker

2145
01:26:09,750 --> 01:26:08,480
and mj of course for coming on with us

2146
01:26:12,470 --> 01:26:09,760
at the beginning of the show to pay

2147
01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:12,480
tribute to the wonderful jim mars

2148
01:26:17,510 --> 01:26:15,760
and we are over and out good night

2149
01:26:19,189 --> 01:26:17,520
everybody thank you court

2150
01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:19,199
good night thank you

2151
01:26:38,229 --> 01:26:28,370
yes